手把手教你组一把价格最低的分体二号波hk416,内含众多内改,电路等干货
先看效果,穷苦学生党买不了那些558啥的就“裸奔吧”鱼骨是ldt3.0鱼骨,塑料416机瞄(已重新喷漆填色),沙色海军托,锦明九托芯,锦明九波箱,锦明九原装套管和三通座
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这把hk416用的是水手联盟的机匣,表面比较粗糙,刻字清晰但是字体和大小不对,机匣正前面少了一面的刻字,上机匣左侧也少了刻字,但是我不在乎那些细节,水手联盟把刻字的416前面的HK加上了我就满意了
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说完缺点说说优点
一,便宜,对,真的便宜,机匣和鸡腿握把一起才119,预算不足的福音啊
二,完美适配锦明九波箱,锦明波箱多好用不用我说了吧,可能因为水手联盟整枪的波箱和锦明波几乎一模一样吧
三,上下机匣,握把,贴合非常紧密,没有一点缝隙,核心的机匣装j9波就是各种东非大裂谷
四,用料还可以,机匣厚度2.2毫米左右,锦明九机匣为1.8-1.9毫米左右
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机匣先填刻字,按图中顺序,
1先用蜡笔涂饱满
2用磕掉大块的蜡笔末
3用卫生纸轻轻擦去所有蜡笔末
4卫生纸擦掉外面的蜡笔,一定要朝一个方向擦,不然会“涂抹均匀”
5卫生纸擦完会四周发白,用橡皮擦掉就可以了,不要大力,大力会把刻字槽里的蜡笔擦出来涂抹均匀,一点点找经验,擦过红色刻字的纸或橡皮不要再擦白色了,不然就会把白色上面涂上红色,还有像销钉一类的槽里要是进去了蜡笔粉,用牙签挑出去就行
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这个机匣有好多反应抛壳窗卡在半路,跟石更了一样,我这个到没有,解决办法非常简单,如图向右捅出销钉,一定要把鱼骨拆了啊,换个抛壳窗弹簧,我用的旧锦明八的很合适,换好了就干净利索
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这个机匣插锦明八匣插不进,锦明九匣无法自由滑落,透明刻字匣非常紧,故切掉波箱里面的两个限位,对着照片切吧,水口钳就行
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目光移到上机匣,为了装锦明九波箱,要装锦明九的三通座,可以用三通稳定和14逆牙管,或者装19套管转接,而我为了省钱,装锦明九原装套管!
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对比发现原装套管三通座巨粗,怎么办,把鱼骨稳定套三通座上转几圈,三通座上就有了痕迹,把整个三通座打磨到痕迹的厚度就行,磨这种大面积不要精细的位置,建议用坦克神大锉刀,虎式正面装甲都能锉没喽https://shuidan.app1.magcloud.net/public/emotion/face_002.png
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锦明九原装套管铝合金部分外径16,19套管内径16,可以插19套管
如果用锦明九原装套管套管的话要把套管前面锯一段,把导气座固定在这里
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416怎么能没有导气,奈何一套导气一百多买不起啊,怎么办,自己动手,丰衣足食
我是用3.5MM钢丝和电工胶布弹簧弄的,非常简陋,有个样子就得了,不建议学
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内管长度看自己需求,三通里套一小段弹簧,长度四厘米左右,可以用波箱弹簧剪一根,塞到三通前面,然后内管稳定跟j9一样不赘述了,效果要和视频中一样,原因嘛,一会你们就知道了
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装鱼骨,装机瞄,装配件,这把416已经完成一半了
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重点来了,改波箱!
1气密,把o圈拿出来,换成铝o圈或者跟图中一样拿出来套气缸上,打火机烤一下,自然冷却装回去
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拍头扩孔,垫拍头,不再赘述了
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重点来了,由于我用航模电池,放电倍率大,烧开关组极为严重,装fet!借用凸眼鱼大佬的电路图,有的人用带80p06p刹车电路的,不用强磁电机的话只装3713就可以了,不是强磁电机装80p06p会烧3713,装散热片也照样烧,烧管子没啥,别烫到自己了我用的带刹车电路的,走线一定要走好,特别是伞齿下面,一定要粘平,用镀银线容易很多,否则可能扫线导致短路
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调齿装波,切天梯倒数第二齿,不赘述了
波箱入机匣和锦明九一样,比锦明九容易很多,如果销钉位置对不上可以打磨机匣这个位置
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下机匣组装完成
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上机匣插入,装电机,这个鸡腿握把480460电机都能用,但是460电机要把握把螺丝拧的很深,并且都要用480电机的弹簧长度,没有的话把460电机弹簧剪一半,握把拧的那么深
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调电机齿什么的不多说了,这里说一下一定要用尼龙j9波,PCj9波中间销钉位置有偏差
组完了,装电池打几下,诶,怎么疯狂尿弹?
还记得装三通时候的弹簧吗,现在用上了,你会发现这个三通没有对上限位,并且不装弹簧的话会前后移动,肯定尿弹
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怎么办?装了三通弹簧的话看视频就可以了
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自制上旋可以看我原来帖子,我现在放另外一种新的设计,也可以直接用激趣的注塑上旋,也挺好用
2ml离心管剪成这个形状,在摩擦片上用笔刀划出痕迹,套在内管外
装上导气座,导气座上有预留螺丝位,装个螺丝就行
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到这里,这把416近乎完工了,说些小提示
1鱼骨螺丝千万别想着拧紧,根本拧不紧,ldt3.0尼龙鱼骨就这样,千万别拧紧,不掉就行,不要问我怎么这么激动,裂了!裂了!裂了!
啊啊啊啊啊心疼啊
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2,电机齿一定要调好,最好用480,其他和改二号波差不多
管用剪刀分体,这把416不适合,因为波箱固定比较难,我就不在这里说了,还有关于自制阻弹器和改推嘴气密我原来帖子都有,就不凑字数了
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调上旋,这把416已经达到了下场水平了
电路部分,不装强磁电机就不要装80p06p电子刹车!!!会击穿3713导致插电池就突突突停不下来,到发本帖的时候,楼主还在修电路部分,所以弹道视频就莫得了,楼主可能会再开个帖子或者发到评论区里
本贴的组416适用于核心机匣和水手联盟机匣,核心机匣用j9波组416上下机匣和握把有缝,并且要磨波箱上侧才能让拉机柄运动顺畅,核心机匣快慢机单发会跳全自动
水手联盟机匣完美兼容j9波,还有沙色机匣和橙色机匣可选,但是表面处理奔放,香辣蛆腿堡,也就是蛆哥说表面和奇点的差不多,也就有点心理安慰,受不了的话可以买核心或者重新做漆面,刻字也是硬伤,可以用金属贴掩盖一下
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最后,水手联盟的机匣还是不错的,组一把不在乎外观的下场用HK416也是很实惠的,刻字表面处理什么都取舍嘛,就看你自己了
PS:我入坑两年,这是第一次自组发射器,萌新自组的话可能要比我组麻烦很多,关于这个机匣自组416啥的不懂的可以问我,我要是有空就会回复你的
沙发,日常水弹图拉丁https://shuidan.app1.magcloud.net/public/emotion/face_003.png 厉害厉害 但是520钙版的也还可以啊 学习了 真不错,老哥很棒 噫,终于有人开始走这条路线了吗https://shuidan.app1.magcloud.net/public/emotion/face_002.png如果不太注重外观,也不会内改,应该是个很友好的选择 zhangwei123 发表于 2020-05-15 09:53
厉害厉害 但是520钙版的也还可以啊
丐版520,我这个带个高速电机,电子刹车,fet,不带后托,一共才350多点,还是市场价,如果有车价配件会更便宜 zhangwei123 发表于 2020-05-15 09:53
厉害厉害 但是520钙版的也还可以啊
不过激趣3.0确实不错 fet带80p06p电子刹车的电路图,感谢@我永远爱P90 和@凸眼鱼
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顺便问下这个上机匣是一体还是三片壳?整体硬不硬啊? 是不是三片壳也没关系啦,没必要弄得那么讲究,毕竟只是个玩具https://shuidan.app1.magcloud.net/public/emotion/face_018.png asd9001 发表于 2020-05-15 11:00
我反正抱着好读书不求甚解的态度玩玩,没必要弄得那么讲究,毕竟只是个玩具,有情怀的玩家追求极致咱也点赞,但大部分人我觉得还是不要太过度消费的好。
顺便问下这个上机匣是一体还是三片壳?整体硬不硬啊?
整体很结实,核心的上机匣是三片壳,水手联盟是一体的,没有任何缝隙,和ldt3.0鱼骨有不到0.5mm的高度差但是不仔细看看不出来 老末captain 发表于 2020-05-15 10:32
想看看成品试射
等把电路修完 好帖 唉,一不留神弹匣供电线焊错了,把弹匣和开关组并联一块去了,不插弹匣没事,一插弹匣突突突停不下来
http://sdgun.ymgames.com.cn/video/20200515/1589519590017729_651.mp4 其实他不刻HK我就加个M,搞一个迫真吃鸡M416了https://shuidan.app1.magcloud.net/public/emotion/face_002.pnghttps://shuidan.app1.magcloud.net/public/emotion/face_002.png 最后到底多少钱 歪打正着哈 发表于 2020-05-15 14:07
最后到底多少钱
不带后托,有电子刹车和大功率电机一共350左右 183152 发表于 2020-05-15 11:32
等把电路修完
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不带后托,有电子刹车和大功率电机一共350左右
谢谢,这个后托是多少钱呢? 歪打正着哈 发表于 2020-05-15 14:34
谢谢,这个后托是多少钱呢?
30 老末captain 发表于 2020-05-15 14:20
这个效果,整上旋的时候还把手划破了,果然不用血见光的发射器弹道是调不好的https://shuidan.app1.magcloud.net/public/emotion/face_061.png
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这个效果,整上旋的时候还把手划破了,果然不用血见光的发射器弹道是调不好的
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室外风挺大的 183152 发表于 2020-05-15 11:32
整体很结实,核心的上机匣是三片壳,水手联盟是一体的,没有任何缝隙,和ldt3.0鱼骨有不到0.5mm的高度差但是不仔细看看不出来
能用卤蛋的金属鱼骨么 龙龙龙百万 发表于 2020-05-17 21:21
能用卤蛋的金属鱼骨么
能 https://shuidan.app1.magcloud.net/public/emotion/face_003.pnghttps://shuidan.app1.magcloud.net/public/emotion/face_003.pnghttps://shuidan.app1.magcloud.net/public/emotion/face_003.pnghttps://shuidan.app1.magcloud.net/public/emotion/face_003.png 183152 发表于 2020-05-17 21:27
能
那真挺好 奥利给
手残党也想装个 学习了 很专业的评测 nice 氵 ttfly 发表于 2020-05-17 23:49
手残党也想装个
很好装 机匣填字帅啊 。。 黑三儿 发表于 2020-05-18 07:51
机匣填字帅啊
刻字是这个机匣的灵魂 黑三儿 发表于 2020-05-18 07:51
机匣填字帅啊
虽然字体和大小错了,还少了一面刻字,上机匣还少了点 现在全都自己动手了? 学习了 并联了两个irl3713,给80p06p装了个散热片,用大功率480电机的刹车电路效果,不用这个电路的话用那个480电机单发会变两连发,会卡扳机
http://sdgun.ymgames.com.cn/video/20200518/1589789147661713_327.mp4 谢谢分享 还不错哦(´-ω-`) 好活! 楼主来次自组SLR吧。https://shuidan.app1.magcloud.net/public/emotion/face_002.png 种花家俊俏兔 发表于 2020-05-18 17:48
楼主来次自组SLR吧。
slr买精击成品不香嘛,其实slr风格短突我也有一把了,不过是一把射速暴力的锦明八
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slr买精击成品不香嘛,其实slr风格短突我也有一把了,不过是一把射速暴力的锦明八
像你说的,我是个穷鬼学生党而已。https://shuidan.app1.magcloud.net/public/emotion/face_010.png